Here's a fairly recent price list:We have three 12 Ga's in stock right now, all Remington 11's. The Remingtons
go for $300 or $425 if re-blued. We will happily convert a customer's gun
for $125 or $250 if reblued. We do use Browning A5's if we can find them for
the right cost and price them accordingly.
11100 Airport Drive
Hayden, ID 83835
I have my father's Belgium Browning--Safety in the Front of the Trigger Guard.....
And if someone hints at altering it at all, they'll be lucky if they didn't hear some very Unchristian Language.
I have seen 12 and 20 Gauge Brownings that started out as far less fancy grades; and had been used hard--that I wouldn't feel at all bad converting.
When you see Whippets on TV, someone is always shooting them from the hip.
Chuck Norris had one in "Lone Wolf McQuaid".He took it all the way to Mexico, presumably, to shoot it from the hip 5 times, and then throw it away like it was a Glock--or something equally distasteful.
Clyde Barrow invented the Whippet--no joke, Criminal's can show ingenuity too.....
He sawed them off the length of one loaded shotgun shell in front of the magazine tube.
That means our legal Whippet probably has 3 or 4 inches more barrel than Barrow's.
There is a limit to how much you can shorten the stock, because of the recoil spring.....
But anyway, Clyde Barrow was a little Jockey-Sized Fart of a man--He and Bonnie were about the same height and reach--and she was a smallish woman.....
But the Idea with the Whippet, was to carry it barrel down, stock under your strong armpit--generally your right--concealed under a coat.
You "Whippet Out" at the first sign of trouble--and fire from the Shoulder!
You may be quite a bit larger than Barrow--hopefully.....
But with perseverance, you should be able to fire it from the shoulder reasonably well--though it will probably be a hard kicker.
They didn't have Pro-Porting ("Mag-Na-Port" for Shotguns) in Barrow's day, but I'd highly recommend it today.
Evan Marshall observed some time ago, that the only shotgun load without a number of Troubling "Fail-To-Stops was the 12 Gauge with 00 Buckshot. He said even Slugs from a 12 Gauge weren't 100% stoppers.
Don't know if I get behind everything Marshall says, but that rang true.
Forget the Slugs momentarily--What goms up shotgun's stopping power occasionally, is failure to penetrate into vital organs.
A 00 Buck will pretty much punch through a rib, at any reasonable distance. A #1? Not a whole lot of data.
A #4--Probably not. The #4's that strike between ribs, should penetrate [Intercostal muscle is pretty tough--ever had tough Bar-Be-Que Ribs?]. The #4's that hit ribs probably won't penetrate.
(They should crack each rib they hit. Anyone who has ever experienced a cracked rib.....But then, a certain percentage of our Clients will be feeling no pain)
With a little bit of bad luck, every single #4 pellet may hit a rib.
In winter, with extra thick clothing? Some 450-500 pound, Sumo-Quick Street people are shielding some of their vital organs with 6 to 8 inches of fat.....
I read that using Buffered&Plated Shot--as well as tightening Patterns--will boost the penetration up one size: #4 will penetrate like#3's; #3's like #2's--if there were such a load; #1's like 0's And 00 like 000.
If I had to rely on the 20, I'd look hard for some of the old 12 #1's. I'm convinced that a 13th #1 could be loaded on the partial hollow between the top three Buck--and if they were all buffered&plated.
24 #3'S--I don't know of a Buffered&Plated #3 Buck. 24 #3 Buck should be somewhat better than 24 #4's--Marginally.
Still, 20 Gauges can be very light--enough to make them noticeably faster handling, and easier to conceal.
I think that for a street load--or in the home--I'd go for buffered& plated BB'S (With the tightest possible choke); and go for headshots.