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« on: September 07, 2011, 12:29:10 AM »

The Savage is too big for the little Russian, and, other than for economy's sake, the 7.62x39 leaves me cold in a boltgun.  OTOH a CZ527 in scout configuration chambered for the 6.5 Grendel would be very interesting.  A flush magazine conversion would improve handling http://www.rvbprecision.com/shooting/cz-527-rifle-magazine-conversion.html If a fella was careful with his materials and dimension maybe such a pseudo-scout comes in under six pounds ready to go, 5.5 maybe?

I am an admirer of the 6.5 Grendel. (But I am not into the AR platform) Not a hot cartridge, does not eat up barrels, flat very far out, still supersonic at 1000 yards, can be very accurate, soft kick, small cartridge (ok, short but fat) , very high BCs depending on specific bullet—on, and on. Alexander and Brennan should be complemented. A "baby brother " of the the  6.5x55 Swedish and .260 Remington?
I am gleaming some of your early posts. Some gold and silver there.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 12:34:17 PM »

I have been getting the "Grendel Bug", may have to get a fix for it, probably in a 22 or 24" upper (Yes sadly for an AR platform), and although my experience with the customer service out at AA has left me disappointed as a customer, I have got to give them an applaud for pushing and marketing a viable round. The round is not as sensitive to changes in barrel length as some, meaning a shorter barrel could be chosen, if the scenario required it. However, where it really seems to shine is in the long range department, with high BC bullets (some available from Lapua) able to stay supersonic to 1200 yards. Of course a bolt gun could mean higher pressure tolerances for the reloader to experiment with. As is however, it seems to be a viable choice for big game hunters as well, with new loadings (not just from Alexander Arms), such as the Wolf Gold line, and Hornady. So I guess through all of this rambling I am just saying that I agree that it is a viable choice, should the market continue expanding for it.

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 01:17:13 PM »

I have been getting the "Grendel Bug"…

 As is however, it seems to be a viable choice for big game hunters as well, with new loadings (not just from Alexander Arms), such as the Wolf Gold line, and Hornady. So I guess through all of this rambling I am just saying that I agree that it is a viable choice, should the market continue expanding for it.

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Yes, Elephants seem to be BIG game. Bell rang quite a few Elephants' bells, but, as Cooper mentioned, Bell knew animal anatomy; shot placement can do a lot, even with the little 6.5. Granted, Bell was using the 6.5x55, but the bullets diameter is the same as the Grendel
And the Europeans have been hunting their large Deer and Elk with the 6.5 for over a century.
The 6.5 Grendel fits nicely between the the 6mm .243, and the 7mm 7x08.

I would like to see how this cartridge would fair in a bolt gun. The smaller framed of us would like it. The whole package could be lighter; receiver, barrel, stock, etc.
Dave


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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 11:35:08 AM »

I like 6.5mm rifles and I also like the 6.5G cartridge. That said, since the 6.5G was designed short enough to operate from the AR15 platform, I don't see much gain in using it in a bolt gun.  If you want a 6.5mm bolt rifle, I'd rather have it in 6.5 Creedmore, .260, 6.5X47 Lapua, or even the old standby the 6.5X55 Swede.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 08:59:55 PM »

I agree...the big advantage of the 6.5G is that it can be used on an AR15 platform to offer a light weight package.  In a bolt action rifle, there are much better calibers.  Bill Alexander is a Dbag to be honest...he's done more to ruin that caliber than anyone else could have done.

I'd go 260 over 6.5CM...the 6.5CM is the winner in an AR10 platform due to it's ability to allow you to seat your bullets longer.

I like 6.5mm rifles and I also like the 6.5G cartridge. That said, since the 6.5G was designed short enough to operate from the AR15 platform, I don't see much gain in using it in a bolt gun.  If you want a 6.5mm bolt rifle, I'd rather have it in 6.5 Creedmore, .260, 6.5X47 Lapua, or even the old standby the 6.5X55 Swede.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 05:08:48 AM »

Actually, I use .260.  I put tohether a LR rifle in that caliber in the late 90s.
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